How to know if she truly loves you or just wants your money

[ATCong]

Originally Posted by WhiteMilk

Totally agree with bro Bradpitt's statement about the needs of sex. I think society portrays sex as just "extra" and not an actual crucial need. But based on what I feel and experienced, I think sex is just as crucial as pissing and shitting.

It is arguably utterly impossible and extremely painful at that if you completely forego any sex whatsoever, at least PCC. I would argue it is extremely impossible, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar and hypocrite.

Agreed is not easy and I fully understand.
I guess the only way is to focus on other matters and keep yourself busy (eg. Work).
And stay away from those websites, if possible.
PCC is the best alternative but some may feel unsatisfactory.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by scumofsociety

So B it seems basically seeking to be pampered like in her 20s single days? Instead of being a cum bucket / 母猪. Sometimes it’s hard to know what women wants.

Totally agreed on the last para, be it foreign or local, many girls will change over time la, esp after motherhood. Many marry cause they scared alone when old / FOMO no kids la, love is rare and monogamy takes real (cum)mitment (pun intended). I don’t think I can eat the same dish everyday, prefer many 小菜. Golden rule for chiongsters: FATA, fuck and throw away. YOLO!!

FATA? Think FAFO (Fuck And Fuck Off) is more appropriate?

But hor, I like to have gf feel. I am ok to bang the same gal over and over again as long as the sex is good. I don't mind to find a good one, then just stick to the same one.

Of course, some "dessert" here and there along the way are welcum-ed. LOL!

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by lonelyfish

I've tried some Japanese ladies during my trip to Japan, most of them so so, but some really good. I picked the gfe ladies, they delivered their service very well, I was satisfied. You should pick the AV ladies for your kind of fun.

VN ladies are not my type, I probably won't take them. PRCs sure have their tricks, I have friends who had VN / PRC wife without a good ending. But quite some of them are doing fine. They are not ML for sure. I'll just play along with her for the time being. Currently she gives me the best feel among all the ladies I've tried and cost less than Cat200 for the amount of time she gives me. Might as well enjoy the perks while at it.

If the VN/PRC gals that one married is not the busty chio type, then it should be quite safe. Because no guys will go jeo jeo them one mah.

If the VN/PRC gals are busty and chio type, then siao liao. Her friends will jeo her and teach her bad, even bring her to places that she can meet many rich guys, then GG liao.

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by Triple_H

Haha yeah. I dont spend much on food. Sold my car, more money to chiong gl

Yah. If don't need car, then sell away now is a good time.

My road tax is about $2.5K/yr. Everytime I pay, I cried. LOL!

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by WhiteMilk

Totally agree with bro Bradpitt's statement about the needs of sex. I think society portrays sex as just "extra" and not an actual crucial need. But based on what I feel and experienced, I think sex is just as crucial as pissing and shitting.

It is arguably utterly impossible and extremely painful at that if you completely forego any sex whatsoever, at least PCC. I would argue it is extremely impossible, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar and hypocrite.

For me, one of the most obvious main symptoms I feel when not having sex for a long time:

- throbbing ache on both sides of my temples
- feeling extremely lethargic and "sleepy" all the time
- Very bad mood swings and life feels meaningless, depressed basically
- aching all over my body especially joints and even bones. like u feel u need to "pop" all the joints everytime, but it just won't go away
- Extremely difficult to concentrate on anything at all, u just have images of sexy women and sex and fuck all the time on your mind

I would say that the very ideal scenario is to be able to have sex with 2 different women each day everyday, ideally when you just wake up in the morning, and in the evening right before bedtime.

I noticed when I bonked a gal in the morning or early afternoon, i usually have the urge again by the time it's evening. and when I bonk in evening, I usually have massive urge again the very next morning.

and I think our bodies can differentiate if we really have sex or we just PCC. if we have sex we can feel the massive release until it's done, like having very good shit. and you cum a lot. and like I said 2x ideally or even at least 1x each day is enough to get you by for at least the next full day. and you have very clear mind and fresh energy to get things done

But if you PCC, it's like a "bandaid" solution, yes u feel relief from the massive urge, but then again, after just 5-10 minutes your D stands again and the urge again comes, and you can basically PCC for 3-4x in 1-2 hours but after the 1st PCC in which you don't cum nearly half as much as the actual thing, then 2nd PCC you just cum 1-2 drops, and by the 3rd and 4th one you feel you cum but no drop even come out.

and after that you feel extremely sore down there and the aforementioned physical aches are amplified.

So, yea, I think I am feeling sad that no thanks to the internet and smartphones, this flesh industry is dying and it's having terrible effects on so many men.

In this era, how many men can really say they can have sex at least 1-2x regularly per day, with the same woman let alone different women each time? Even married dudes there are so many trapped in sexless marriages.

I think a huge time bomb is going to explode eventually. I haven't been able to get any for several years now, and everyday is a massive struggle to withstand all the pain and suffering physically and mentally. It's a torture to say the least

The most sad fact in life is that :

Men need to spend money to make women happy.
But women don't need to spent money to make men happy.

So being a men is really tough. If rich, then ok lah. If not rich, really, really jialat. Women can go long period without sex but most men cannot.

For me, one day 3-4 times, everyday, i no problem. Usually is the gal buay tahan. if they can tahan, I am ok one.

[Lawrencegan]

Anyway it’s safe to say all girls only care about the money. They are numb already. Some even tell me that when they do a man they imagine dollars all over the man face or they just dream about their house, their dream car, their bank account. It’s whether some play the quick win or some play the long game for bigger returns.

If they see you look like got good job, look good they will play long game with you- they may not ask money now but gradually the fox tail will come out. Some come out here, some come out when they back in Thailand. But they are smart too, just like us when we buy investments we don’t just all buy long term right? We have some short term and even some in current accounts

So the girls balance it by taking some from the hit and run type too. Directly ask and if you don’t give too bad, if you give good for them.

Portfolio approach.


Now…. You may ask what it means for men


Definitely we do portfolio approach too- We have to pretend like we always play long game for the ones who play long game with us. But we leave the game just before the show hand round…for those who play the short game with us, we have to pretend like we will play long game with them. So they change their strategy but guess what we also leave before the show hand round

[Triple_H]

Originally Posted by bradpitt968

Yah. If don't need car, then sell away now is a good time.

My road tax is about $2.5K/yr. Everytime I pay, I cried. LOL!

Yah man, its not a need . Just a want

[bradpitt968]

Originally Posted by WhiteMilk

Totally agree with bro Bradpitt's statement about the needs of sex. I think society portrays sex as just "extra" and not an actual crucial need. But based on what I feel and experienced, I think sex is just as crucial as pissing and shitting.

It is arguably utterly impossible and extremely painful at that if you completely forego any sex whatsoever, at least PCC. I would argue it is extremely impossible, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar and hypocrite.

For me, one of the most obvious main symptoms I feel when not having sex for a long time:

- throbbing ache on both sides of my temples
- feeling extremely lethargic and "sleepy" all the time
- Very bad mood swings and life feels meaningless, depressed basically
- aching all over my body especially joints and even bones. like u feel u need to "pop" all the joints everytime, but it just won't go away
- Extremely difficult to concentrate on anything at all, u just have images of sexy women and sex and fuck all the time on your mind

I would say that the very ideal scenario is to be able to have sex with 2 different women each day everyday, ideally when you just wake up in the morning, and in the evening right before bedtime.

I noticed when I bonked a gal in the morning or early afternoon, i usually have the urge again by the time it's evening. and when I bonk in evening, I usually have massive urge again the very next morning.

and I think our bodies can differentiate if we really have sex or we just PCC. if we have sex we can feel the massive release until it's done, like having very good shit. and you cum a lot. and like I said 2x ideally or even at least 1x each day is enough to get you by for at least the next full day. and you have very clear mind and fresh energy to get things done

But if you PCC, it's like a "bandaid" solution, yes u feel relief from the massive urge, but then again, after just 5-10 minutes your D stands again and the urge again comes, and you can basically PCC for 3-4x in 1-2 hours but after the 1st PCC in which you don't cum nearly half as much as the actual thing, then 2nd PCC you just cum 1-2 drops, and by the 3rd and 4th one you feel you cum but no drop even come out.

and after that you feel extremely sore down there and the aforementioned physical aches are amplified.

So, yea, I think I am feeling sad that no thanks to the internet and smartphones, this flesh industry is dying and it's having terrible effects on so many men.

In this era, how many men can really say they can have sex at least 1-2x regularly per day, with the same woman let alone different women each time? Even married dudes there are so many trapped in sexless marriages.

I think a huge time bomb is going to explode eventually. I haven't been able to get any for several years now, and everyday is a massive struggle to withstand all the pain and suffering physically and mentally. It's a torture to say the least

Yah. Most people are just consuming social media as and when they can.

What you can't "get any for several years now"? What pain?

[unfit]

Originally Posted by Triple_H

Yah man, its not a need . Just a want

if she wanna go jalan jalan with you

hahaha

[WhiteMilk]

Originally Posted by scumofsociety

So B it seems basically seeking to be pampered like in her 20s single days? Instead of being a cum bucket / 母猪. Sometimes it’s hard to know what women wants.

Totally agreed on the last para, be it foreign or local, many girls will change over time la, esp after motherhood. Many marry cause they scared alone when old / FOMO no kids la, love is rare and monogamy takes real (cum)mitment (pun intended). I don’t think I can eat the same dish everyday, prefer many 小菜. Golden rule for chiongsters: FATA, fuck and throw away. YOLO!!

This is why with all these complications and shitshow, even from the very first time I bonked in GL back in 2007, I already knew back then even in my teens I just want to spend my whole life just bonking WLs in GL and FLs to fulfill my sex needs and I won't play this game

Then at the very height of the "pandemic" when everything closed, I was shocked and sad to see this forum and saw posts from bros being extremely distraught from the closures that they started talking about "having to find real GFs now..." and "need to just get married"

I don't think I can ever relent like that, the bullshit is just too much. I am just saying, my years in GL, FL scenes, and also scenes overseas have permanently "damaged" me.

In the sense that, let me illustrate this, how can you recover from the following: picture the gals in my signature such as Rong Rong 1606, Jia Yi 2047, Chu Chu 1654a, those exquisite REAL 8/10, 9/10 legit beauties with just $150 not only opened their sexy legs, but also do things to me that I thought only existed in "fictional" porn clips only like licking my ass furiously, letting me cum on their bodies and even pee on their body in the shower, call me "小弟弟" (up to 2015) then put their fingers in my ass and fuck it, french kiss me like no tomorrow non stop, biting me all over my chest and neck giving me dark hickeys I had to struggle to explain away when mom saw those on my neck at home

Then instead of that, now have to resort to average 4/10 "Tan Ah Mooi" who thinks her painfully average ass pussay is 24 carat gold diamond, demanding 5Cs (cash, car, credit card, condominium and country club membership), demanding to be wined and dined, and then demanding u to marry and finance her sitting doing nothing at home for literally your whole life, then always nagging, refusing to even give you dead fish sex.

How can you ever recover from that? You can never go back, at least I can never, would never, could never, even if you point a gun on my head, I will just say "pull the trigger and let's not waste my time and yours"

I don't think I am alone in this situation.

[scumofsociety]

Originally Posted by WhiteMilk

This is why with all these complications and shitshow, even from the very first time I bonked in GL back in 2007, I already knew back then even in my teens I just want to spend my whole life just bonking WLs in GL and FLs to fulfill my sex needs and I won't play this game

Then at the very height of the "pandemic" when everything closed, I was shocked and sad to see this forum and saw posts from bros being extremely distraught from the closures that they started talking about "having to find real GFs now..." and "need to just get married"

I don't think I can ever relent like that, the bullshit is just too much. I am just saying, my years in GL, FL scenes, and also scenes overseas have permanently "damaged" me.

In the sense that, let me illustrate this, how can you recover from the following: picture the gals in my signature such as Rong Rong 1606, Jia Yi 2047, Chu Chu 1654a, those exquisite REAL 8/10, 9/10 legit beauties with just $150 not only opened their sexy legs, but also do things to me that I thought only existed in "fictional" porn clips only like licking my ass furiously, letting me cum on their bodies and even pee on their body in the shower, call me "小弟弟" (up to 2015) then put their fingers in my ass and fuck it, french kiss me like no tomorrow non stop, biting me all over my chest and neck giving me dark hickeys I had to struggle to explain away when mom saw those on my neck at home

Then instead of that, now have to resort to average 4/10 "Tan Ah Mooi" who thinks her painfully average ass pussay is 24 carat gold diamond, demanding 5Cs (cash, car, credit card, condominium and country club membership), demanding to be wined and dined, and then demanding u to marry and finance her sitting doing nothing at home for literally your whole life, then always nagging, refusing to even give you dead fish sex.

How can you ever recover from that? You can never go back, at least I can never, would never, could never, even if you point a gun on my head, I will just say "pull the trigger and let's not waste my time and yours"

I don't think I am alone in this situation.

On the point of the “realisation” during the pandemic, actually I think it’s just lust. Saw this saying which I feel is quite accurate: sex is a physiological need for men; an emotional want for women. Prolly just sian and gian cus GL closed down .

Also men and women on diff timers: men can fuck into their 50/60s(?), just the frequency and intensity drops. Sperm quality declines after 35. Women quality of eggs drop after 30, and if I’m not wrong can experience sharp drop in libido after giving birth and menopause between 45-55. Though I’m curious how common the “sexless marriage” life is amongst couples…

Agree on the “never going back” thing la, it’s hard to eat “white rice”, some think they come with golden sprinkles , after you’ve tasted the pad Thais, the Malas the phos. Commercial sex is a deal with the devil. . Everyone has 24hours and different choices / priorities, who knows, you may change after you’ve found the “right one”, that transcends sex and elevates you to the highest level in the Maslow hierarchy of needs.

Lastly you’re not alone la I’m in late 20s, I’m anti-marriage anti-natilist that’s why I’m on my yolo journey to fuck 100 girls as a start. cheers!

[RatedX]

Originally Posted by scumofsociety

On the point of the “realisation” during the pandemic, actually I think it’s just lust. Saw this saying which I feel is quite accurate: sex is a physiological need for men; an emotional want for women. Prolly just sian and gian cus GL closed down .

Also men and women on diff timers: men can fuck into their 50/60s(?), just the frequency and intensity drops. Sperm quality declines after 35. Women quality of eggs drop after 30, and if I’m not wrong can experience sharp drop in libido after giving birth and menopause between 45-55. Though I’m curious how common the “sexless marriage” life is amongst couples…

Agree on the “never going back” thing la, it’s hard to eat “white rice”, some think they come with golden sprinkles , after you’ve tasted the pad Thais, the Malas the phos. Commercial sex is a deal with the devil. . Everyone has 24hours and different choices / priorities, who knows, you may change after you’ve found the “right one”, that transcends sex and elevates you to the highest level in the Maslow hierarchy of needs.

Lastly you’re not alone la I’m in late 20s, I’m anti-marriage anti-natilist that’s why I’m on my yolo journey to fuck 100 girls as a start. cheers!

It's true. I dry spell when wife carrying 9 months to now 1 year old. Still walking in the desert. I should remedy that soon lest the emotional part cannot salvage.

GL is a side hobby that fulfil my physical needs. I made my peace that's I'm going straight to hell or reincarnated as cockroach in my next life.

[scumofsociety]

Originally Posted by RatedX

It's true. I dry spell when wife carrying 9 months to now 1 year old. Still walking in the desert. I should remedy that soon lest the emotional part cannot salvage.

GL is a side hobby that fulfil my physical needs. I made my peace that's I'm going straight to hell or reincarnated as cockroach in my next life.

I see thanks for sharing bro, so that’s why u v familiar 感同身受 with the “dig shellscrape” in the desert face la . Attack her emotionally, hehe see if it really works, that’s why nowadays I try to talk abit to the girl during shower, observe and praise them abit, playful abit see if I can break them abit emotionally, stop digging shellscrape . But chionging is just a game, back to topic of the thread, can respect the girl but never get kc. skinship can create false impression of love but it’s just sex and endorphines.

Hahahaha on the hell / cockroach, marriage is a real (cum)mitment for the married peeps, I’m always v careful and do equipment check when I go, just be careful put on mask & hat Arbo ur marriage (and assets) gg.

[WhiteMilk]

Originally Posted by scumofsociety

On the point of the “realisation” during the pandemic, actually I think it’s just lust. Saw this saying which I feel is quite accurate: sex is a physiological need for men; an emotional want for women. Prolly just sian and gian cus GL closed down .

Also men and women on diff timers: men can fuck into their 50/60s(?), just the frequency and intensity drops. Sperm quality declines after 35. Women quality of eggs drop after 30, and if I’m not wrong can experience sharp drop in libido after giving birth and menopause between 45-55. Though I’m curious how common the “sexless marriage” life is amongst couples…

Agree on the “never going back” thing la, it’s hard to eat “white rice”, some think they come with golden sprinkles , after you’ve tasted the pad Thais, the Malas the phos. Commercial sex is a deal with the devil. . Everyone has 24hours and different choices / priorities, who knows, you may change after you’ve found the “right one”, that transcends sex and elevates you to the highest level in the Maslow hierarchy of needs.

Lastly you’re not alone la I’m in late 20s, I’m anti-marriage anti-natilist that’s why I’m on my yolo journey to fuck 100 girls as a start. cheers!

yea I pity those youngsters who think that getting married means having tons of sex every single day. I am also intrigued and wondering about the Sexless Marriage phenomenon. I think it's much more prevalent that we could ever think or fathom

"Commercial sex is a deal with the devil" <--- 10000000% AGREE with this!

Once you dip your toes into this, there's absolutely no turning back and you are forever chained and changed forever. The "Devil" dishes out a little bit of his magical repertoire of pleasure for you, in exchange for literally your SOUL!

I scantly remember the very short years between the moment I understood sex and started PCC and watching porn (exclusively consumed Hentai comics back then) to when I started dipping into Commercial Sex.

That time, I was able to have the thoughts of wanting a relationship with some girl, eventually marrying her, starting a family and basically do what society tells us to do. Used to imagine or foresee myself doing this with probably one of my schoolmates, or with one of the neighbours' daughters, or with some ordinary girl my family would eventually intro me to and all.

But after years of being "tainted" by the Devil, I can no longer view "ordinary girls" outside of commercial sex anymore, they are invisible.

Not only in terms of looks, which obviously the commercial sex girls that I see are much more good looking than ordinary girls we have around, at least the ones I chose to bonk.

but also in the sense that, "is this girl on sale? $XXX for Y hour? No? Then I want absolutely nothing to do with them" type of mindset. They are invisible and "as good as dead" to me.

I mean:

"point at 9/10 exotic sexy gal, she walks to you, hold your hand to the room, hug, shower, kiss, lick, suck, fuck, shower, hold your hand out again, drop $150 to OKT, and be happy"

vs

"Having to get to know and talk a 4/10, have to think what to say and talk about, have to get her to say yes to wine and dine, or even god forbids get MARRIED first then can probably get dead fish treatment in the first night. And the yandao that I am, gals usually give me cold shoulders and shoo me away in the first part anyways before I could even think of saying anything else besides HI..."

The choice is clear. and I am glad I made the "deal" with this Devil you are talking about. Instead of being trapped in a sexless marriage with a 4/10 naggy well... she-devil, I have now bonked nearly 100 different girls from all continents except Africa and Antarctica and re-enacted many of the wildest things that could otherwise be only seen on the porn vid playing on my laptop/phone screens.....

SO much to be thankful for

Originally Posted by RatedX

It's true. I dry spell when wife carrying 9 months to now 1 year old. Still walking in the desert. I should remedy that soon lest the emotional part cannot salvage.

GL is a side hobby that fulfil my physical needs. I made my peace that's I'm going straight to hell or reincarnated as cockroach in my next life.

The first part of your comment kinda confirms what I have concluded in this life: Monogamy doesn't work, unrealistic and goes against the very nature of men

Btw, not trying to get too philosophical and all that, but what if "hell" is actually a giant fun Yi Tiao Long luxurious bath house with plenty of sexiest gals that we could ever dream of?

and is being cockroach better off than being humans? Cockroaches are arguably more free than us, they don't need to pay tax, to start with lol

[scumofsociety]

Originally Posted by WhiteMilk

yea I pity those youngsters who think that getting married means having tons of sex every single day. I am also intrigued and wondering about the Sexless Marriage phenomenon. I think it's much more prevalent that we could ever think or fathom

"Commercial sex is a deal with the devil" <--- 10000000% AGREE with this!

and is being cockroach better off than being humans? Cockroaches are arguably more free than us, they don't need to pay tax, to start with lol

Yeah I think we have similar mindsets and goals la, I also wanna bonk girls collect girls of diff nationalities, count and finishing in diff positions etc before I become old cannot bonk Liao. Chionging is More of a “been there done that” yolo hobby, collecting trophies. .

Only con about this deal with the devil is: the kc, is satisfies your physical needs only. Most girls are in for the money, nothing personal just good biz. When I get a bad bonk I just tell myself I’m donating overseas and doing a good deed

Chionging can never be truly emotionally fulfilled, that requires a soulmate la. A partner that makes you want to be a better person, purposeful etc. that’s why choose spouse must be clear in what you want lor, not just for sex ah. , sex is just one of many considerations, sex drive incompatibility is still impt la, albeit for a limited period post marriage.