All you need to know about the WOMEN'S CHARTER

[boogie2nite]

Originally Posted by 84gunner

If it's yr 1st day, or new to SG, u can try. If not, u should know that to change it or the situation, it'll likely take a revolution / change of Gangmen (肛门) to achieve it.

IMHO, life's short, why waste the time & effort to do it? Rather quit SG, go to another country where the culture & situation suit u better, move on with life.

Anyway, Pappy's attitude is they want the so-called "best" people, with high education certificates & "high moral", so they don't give much of a shit that ordinary folks quit. They have schemes to attract FTs to replace these quitters wat. From another POV, it's like "changing" the ordinary folks into elites (the ordinary folks leave, the same number or more "elites" come).

Similarly, if the females in SG don't treasure u, there are plenty of females in other countries that appreciate u. If they are spoilt brat, life's too comfortable for them, like to throw tantrums, undecided / don't know exactly what they want, or expecting perfection, they don't appreciate u, the Legal System is to their advantage, then let them go ahead with it! Time cannot be turned back, when they get older & regret it, too bad, they can't turn back the clock, their attractiveness & competitiveness are even lower already.

Remember, a middle-age man, as long as he has achievements in his career, he is still very attractive to females. But a middle-age woman is very different. She will not like younger, less matured, less achievement guys. With so much more choices, the older female needs to compete with the younger females, hee hee.

Just look at the countries in the region (within Asia) alone, even if u sleep with 1 female every night, there's more females than u can sleep in your entire life time! So why get so uptight / upset over this in SG?

Nice one 84 Gunner!! I Love your quotes

-->"there's more females than u can sleep in your entire life time! So why get so uptight / upset over this in SG? "

[petoria]

Originally Posted by boogie2nite

Nice one 84 Gunner!! I Love your quotes

-->"there's more females than u can sleep in your entire life time! So why get so uptight / upset over this in SG? "

true but not every country letting in foriegners like crazy, how to go overseas find nice girls???

wanna go Oz or US need to prove you are rare talent with special skills. as opposed to working in SG......

[BonkOnDemand]

v informative thread.

[jacky43]

I agreed but time to move on. A local marrying a FT. Both PRs staying here and if the marriage cannot work out. What's next?

Mine feelings after 2000, the RC have being receiving cases where there are PRC women seeking marriage matters. I had being told by a colleague who help out in such RC MP meeting the people.

A PRC PR woman bringing her husband IC, he wish the senator to write in to some business renting places. She want to operate a clothing shop and, she was turn away because they would prefer to speak to that IC person.

Who knows it may be a front for illegal HC, a new generation all really begins 13 years ago. So is this website.

[Alinghi]

Eye opener of a thread for me. Very good to know.

[t5lm]

Informative stuff

[loster]

Hi,

Would like to check under woman's charter, how much of the house is the wife entitled to? Is it 50%? Can she ask for more? And how is the 50% defined? Is it 50% of the cash proceed or 50% of the selling price?

[joshblue]

Originally Posted by loster

Hi,

Would like to check under woman's charter, how much of the house is the wife entitled to? Is it 50%? Can she ask for more? And how is the 50% defined? Is it 50% of the cash proceed or 50% of the selling price?

It's not the house, it's a share of the matrimonial assets. That means everything bought during the marriage and any asset bought before the marriage that was used or improved upon by either spouse. As for the share it's not 50% so simple. The court will see the contribution of the wife to the marriage and also to the specific asset. So for example the house you live in is the only matrimonial asset (unlikely in real life considering shares, insurance, bank accounts ), she contributed 40% of the purchase price and was also looking after the kids full time, minimum also is 40% but sure will have add on because of her non monetary contributions to the marriage.

[loster]

Originally Posted by joshblue

It's not the house, it's a share of the matrimonial assets. That means everything bought during the marriage and any asset bought before the marriage that was used or improved upon by either spouse. As for the share it's not 50% so simple. The court will see the contribution of the wife to the marriage and also to the specific asset. So for example the house you live in is the only matrimonial asset (unlikely in real life considering shares, insurance, bank accounts ), she contributed 40% of the purchase price and was also looking after the kids full time, minimum also is 40% but sure will have add on because of her non monetary contributions to the marriage.

I only have house and no other things. She did not contribute to the purchase of the house....

[joshblue]

Originally Posted by loster

I only have house and no other things. She did not contribute to the purchase of the house....

You have children? How long was the marriage? Was she a housewife?

You can pm me if you not comfortable talking about it in the open

[Big Sexy]

Wives may have to provide for husbands under proposed Women’s Charter review
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...e/2204450.html
http://www.todayonline.com/singapore...inglepage=true

TODAY reports: The Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) says there have been calls over the years to extend spousal maintenance to men, hence it is seeking public feedback on amendments to Women’s Charter Bill.

SINGAPORE: Providing for a spouse may soon become a wife’s legal responsibility, too - even after a divorce - but only if the man becomes unable to work due to physical or mental disabilities or illness.

This is one of several changes the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) has proposed for the Women’s Charter, after a committee tasked to review family justice laws recommended more equity between genders in maintenance matters.

Putting up proposed changes to the statute for feedback from the public until Nov 8, the ministry said there have been calls over the years to extend spousal maintenance to men. But from its talks with various groups, the ministry found that society is still not ready for women to shoulder the same responsibility as men.

So, it is proposing that maintenance be extended only to a “small group” of men who need support from their wives or ex-wives after they lose the ability to work because of physical or mental disabilities or illness.

The court will consider the woman’s financial circumstances and needs of the children before ordering for maintenance to be paid, just as it does currently when considering women’s maintenance claims.

The MSF said: “Support given to these men is in line with our philosophy of family as the first line of support, and the mutual help expected of spouses.”

It declined to reveal specific numbers on the number of men who could be impacted by this proposed change.

Calls to extend maintenance to men were brought into focus last year when a High Court judge rejected a woman’s S$120,000 maintenance claim for her ex-husband, adding that awarding even a token sum would be wrong if protection is not needed. In that case, the woman earned more than the man, and had more assets than him.

MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE BASED ON FAIRNESS: AWARE

Commenting on the proposal on Monday (Oct 19), Singapore Council of Women’s Organisations’ president Malathi Das said it is a recognition of women’s stronger financial ability in some circumstances. “The reality is that patriarchal thinking still exists in Singapore and some may find it unthinkable for a wife or ex-wife to have to maintain her husband, incapacitated as he might be,” she said. But Ms Das said there should also be gender parity in other areas, such as wages and parenting duties.

The Association of Women for Action and Research (AWARE) said maintenance should be based on fairness, and suggested that men assuming the primary role in caregiving or household labour should also be eligible for maintenance.

Family lawyers said the proposed change reflects the increasing number of working women in society.

Mr Yap Teong Liang of TL Yap Law Chambers said: “The question is, ‘Is it a right time to move at least incrementally ... in a situation where the husband cannot fend for himself?’ If the wife can afford it, why should there be no contribution?”

Mr Yap felt the proposed amendments could have gone further to include men who have given up a financially rewarding career for their families.

Another proposed change to the Women’s Charter is to allow women or girls requiring protection to be placed under the care of a close friend or relative. Ms Petrine Lim, principal social worker at Fei Yue Community Services, said while this is already informally done, changing the statute and coming up with official guidelines could help social workers in making the call.

Other proposed changes to the statute include mandating that divorcing parents with children aged below 21 go through parenting programmes by specialist agencies before they file for divorce. Voiding marriages of convenience once a party is convicted is another proposed change.

[kuasimi]

[Big Sexy]

Parliament passes changes to Women's Charter
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...s/2559036.html

Social and Family Development Minister Tan Chuan-Jin said the changes were proposed in view of evolving trends, such as a rising prevalence of dual-income families and divorces, and small but increasing instances of wives being the main family breadwinner.

SINGAPORE: The Women's Charter (Amendment) Bill - including a mandatory parenting programme and a proposal to void Marriages of Convenience - has been passed.

Speaking in ‪Parliament on Monday (Feb 29)‬, Social and Family Development Minister Tan Chuan-Jin said the changes were proposed in view of evolving trends, such as a rising prevalence of dual-income families and divorces, and small but increasing instances of wives being the main family breadwinner.

The key changes proposed include:

* Extending the marriage preparation programme to all marriages where one party is a minor, below the age of 21. Currently, the programme only applies to couples where one party is 18 or under, or where both parties are minors.

* Requiring divorcing couples with minor children to attend a mandatory parenting programme before they can file for divorce. At present, divorcing parents only attend mandatory mediation and counselling, after a writ of divorce has been filed.

* Allowing for spousal maintenance to be extended to incapacitated husbands or ex-husbands, for the first time.

* Making a marriage void if one party to the marriage is convicted of the marriage of convenience offence under the Immigration Act.

* Prohibiting the publication or broadcast of any information in the mass and social media that will reveal or is likely to identify the location of a shelter, residential facility, or its residents.

* Making it an offence for persons in Singapore to operate or maintain in Singapore any website or other remote communication service that offers, or facilitate the provision of sexual services in return for payment.

First passed in 1961 to protect and advance the rights of women and girls in Singapore, the Women's Charter last saw amendments made to it in 2011.

[kuasimi]

Women's Charter - Still relevant today?



https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXR...TqzZa8g/videos

[ComplainKing]

Is it time also for a Men's Charter ???