You guys are insane

[bossnova]

Recently saw a message from JANEBKK that lots of her customers ask for unprotected sex.

To those guys, I want to ask, are you insane?

I honestly don't understand how one night can be worth potentially a lifetime of managing symptoms, stigma and treatment of a STI.

I am thinking about for example HIV or herpes.

I would be interested in hearing from those who always practice safe sex, as well as those who have unprotected sex. I wonder what you think?

As a disclaimer, I want to emphasise that I am not criticising Jane or the girls she has. I have only had good experiences.

[steve_li]

Originally Posted by bossnova

Recently saw a message from JANEBKK that lots of her customers ask for unprotected sex.

To those guys, I want to ask, are you insane?

I honestly don't understand how one night can be worth potentially a lifetime of managing symptoms, stigma and treatment of a STI.

I am thinking about for example HIV or herpes.

I would be interested in hearing from those who always practice safe sex, as well as those who have unprotected sex. I wonder what you think?

As a disclaimer, I want to emphasise that I am not criticising Jane or the girls she has. I have only had good experiences.

. To each his own perhaps. Maybe most of them are on some sort of medication? Prep?

For paid sex, i wouldnt do it. I would definitely use a condom but if its with a friend or gf it would depend on the mood for the day. haha

[lost99]

I always advise using a condom with sex workers, especially with high volume girls in Thailand. You would be surprised the number of girls in Thailand that would allow it (mostly the uglier/desperate ones who need the $$$)

I've read posts of men in another forum where they have HIV from prolonged raw dogging in LOS. Its quite sad and depressing.

The few times I went raw with an escort, too much alcohol was involved, no condom available, and condom even broke a few times so may as well finish the job. Luckily nothing ever happened that could not be cured. A few times in Indo I went Raw,.it sort of just happen if I have trouble cumming or if the girl really likes me and ripped off condom.part way. These places the girl get STI testing every two weeks I felt safer but still risky.
Anyways I am lucky and I don't actively look for RAW with escorts only civilian girls.

The guys who actively hunt RAW from escorts, they probably don't have much sensitivity with a condom, hate the feeling of condom, trouble cumming with condom, perhaps older men who don't care anymore about safety, don't have wife/kids or future to worry about. They all have their reasons to justify the risk - which is quite heavy with some STIs. We should always discourage guys from having unprotected sex, not just for ourselves but to protect the girl also. However if I was 65+ years old uncle with no wife to worry about already live a lonely life I probably less concerned also as I'm gonna die soon anyways lol...

[muscular]

Just a advice for bros who like raw, do try out akamoto 001, feels very thin, but u will need to lube frequently. That said no matter how shiok it is to raw, it's just not worth getting HIV for it. If really want raw don't chiong, settle down for a girlfriend.

[drifand]

Question what makes bare back blowjob as safe then?
Or you licking the girls pussy ?

I am just asking btw not having a go at anyone. People are free to choose what they want.

[muscular]

Originally Posted by drifand

Question what makes bare back blowjob as safe then?
Or you licking the girls pussy ?

I am just asking btw not having a go at anyone. People are free to choose what they want.

No one has gotten HIV before with bbbj. The virus type HIV is the one that's uncurable, the rest like wards are superficial with treatments, and bacterial ones can treat with antibiotics. All in all oral sex still can get STD, but nothing uncurable. If you go anonymous testing the stuff they ask is when was your last commando session, if don't have they will classify u as basically low risk.

That's said I don't claim to know everything about STD, best is to consult the doctor when screening and do own homework on which type of risk you can manage.

[lost99]

@muscular - Not exactly true. STIs depend on the transmission of active cells/fluids l. Any STI from vaginal can also be received through oral, albeit less likely. For example, if the woman has a cut or cancre soar in her mouth and gives you BBBJ you could get an STI. That said I always get BBBJ when possible and never got anything

Some STIs cannot be cured. HIV, Hepatitis B, gential herpes, pailioviris and cytomegalovirus.

Generally the most risky mode of sex is raw anal, as the blood vessel of the woman expands allowing for active cells to easily engage. This is why gay men tend to share HIV most easily. Although I don't do LB as I not gay, it's another reason not to play with fake devil's woman

[bossnova]

Originally Posted by drifand

Question what makes bare back blowjob as safe then?
Or you licking the girls pussy ?

I am just asking btw not having a go at anyone. People are free to choose what they want.

That's a good question! Oral sex still carries but usually much lower. It is also lower for the receiver compared to the giver. (Important to look out for open sores or bleeding, which would increase risk).

Originally Posted by steve_li

. To each his own perhaps. Maybe most of them are on some sort of medication? Prep?

For paid sex, i wouldnt do it. I would definitely use a condom but if its with a friend or gf it would depend on the mood for the day. haha

Makes sense to me, yea. Unprotected sex with working girls is like playing russian roulette, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by lost99

I always advise using a condom with sex workers, especially with high volume girls in Thailand. You would be surprised the number of girls in Thailand that would allow it (mostly the uglier/desperate ones who need the $$$)

I've read posts of men in another forum where they have HIV from prolonged raw dogging in LOS. Its quite sad and depressing.

The few times I went raw with an escort, too much alcohol was involved, no condom available, and condom even broke a few times so may as well finish the job. Luckily nothing ever happened that could not be cured. A few times in Indo I went Raw,.it sort of just happen if I have trouble cumming or if the girl really likes me and ripped off condom.part way. These places the girl get STI testing every two weeks I felt safer but still risky.
Anyways I am lucky and I don't actively look for RAW with escorts only civilian girls.

The guys who actively hunt RAW from escorts, they probably don't have much sensitivity with a condom, hate the feeling of condom, trouble cumming with condom, perhaps older men who don't care anymore about safety, don't have wife/kids or future to worry about. They all have their reasons to justify the risk - which is quite heavy with some STIs. We should always discourage guys from having unprotected sex, not just for ourselves but to protect the girl also. However if I was 65+ years old uncle with no wife to worry about already live a lonely life I probably less concerned also as I'm gonna die soon anyways lol...

Yea, I agree lost99. Not worth the risk if you are still young and plan to have a family in the future.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by bossnova

Recently saw a message from JANEBKK that lots of her customers ask for unprotected sex.

To those guys, I want to ask, are you insane?

I honestly don't understand how one night can be worth potentially a lifetime of managing symptoms, stigma and treatment of a STI.

I am thinking about for example HIV or herpes.

I would be interested in hearing from those who always practice safe sex, as well as those who have unprotected sex. I wonder what you think?

As a disclaimer, I want to emphasise that I am not criticising Jane or the girls she has. I have only had good experiences.

Don't have to worry about us. Most raw players are on HIV PrEP when they go chiong for raw cip. The higher risk are for those who are NOT on PrEP then happen to raw and catch it.

[lonelyfish]

Originally Posted by muscular

Just a advice for bros who like raw, do try out akamoto 001, feels very thin, but u will need to lube frequently. That said no matter how shiok it is to raw, it's just not worth getting HIV for it. If really want raw don't chiong, settle down for a girlfriend.

Okamoto 001, Sagami 001 tried them all. Even if it is thin, not much feel with that layer blocking the friction.

[m0pik001]

All a matter of luck or bad luck

I know a guy who's was rawdogging in Bangkok past 15 years, and only got Chlamydia / gonorrhea a handful of times, never HIV and this was during the days when HIV was prevalent and no PrEP was available. On the flip side, while PrEP is super effective, it's also not 100%, so you play Roulette with a 100-chamber gun with 1 bullet vs a revolver

I've been trying to break the habit of going raw. It's one of those vicious cycle things, the more I do it (raw), the harder it is for me to cum with a condom. My last trip my dick went limp as soon as the girl put the condom on. Will need to try and exert self control, especially since I can't take PrEP (due to an existing medical condition)

[muscular]

Originally Posted by m0pik001

All a matter of luck or bad luck

I know a guy who's was rawdogging in Bangkok past 15 years, and only got Chlamydia / gonorrhea a handful of times, never HIV and this was during the days when HIV was prevalent and no PrEP was available. On the flip side, while PrEP is super effective, it's also not 100%, so you play Roulette with a 100-chamber gun with 1 bullet vs a revolver

I've been trying to break the habit of going raw. It's one of those vicious cycle things, the more I do it (raw), the harder it is for me to cum with a condom. My last trip my dick went limp as soon as the girl put the condom on. Will need to try and exert self control, especially since I can't take PrEP (due to an existing medical condition)

Yes, its the habit. If someone goes raw, and next time with cap on, harder to cum. Just like people who masturbate with death grip, when met with real girl, cannot cum also as pu**y is never as tight.

Weigh dangers vs benefits and see if its worth the risk, every individual's situation is different.

[m0pik001]

Originally Posted by muscular

Yes, its the habit. If someone goes raw, and next time with cap on, harder to cum. Just like people who masturbate with death grip, when met with real girl, cannot cum also as pu**y is never as tight.

Weigh dangers vs benefits and see if its worth the risk, every individual's situation is different.

Yeah same thing. And just like the death grip scenario, need to have discipline to break out of it, thought its damn difficult

[LLSG]

A bit paranoid here. I actually avoid girls who advertise "raw for extra $" as I don't even want to finger into the cum of any of you esteemed fellow dogs. Staying away from bbbj. Three times I ended up in bed with chicks while unequipped (poor planning, ran out due to other opportunties etc), 2 wl and a free one, and managed to hold back despite the booze. Turned it into COB, bitter disappointment and a note to self to be better prepared. Not judging anyone, just how I roll.

[DSAQ]

Actually the chance of getting HIV from unprotected sex with HIV positive female is quite low. Estimated to be 2% chance, or 1/50 on the higher end
https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medic...20an al%20sex.


The chances increase if you have existing STDs, anal sex, or if she's on her period. There's no chance of contacting HIV if the girl is not HIV positive
So chiongsters count that the chances are in their favour. Some also take the HIV PrEP (cost about $50/month according to google search) as preparation to chiong
Of course if you kana then the rest of your life is GG. And wearing condom will also protects you from other STDs which are quite discomforting and costs $$$ to see a doctor